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Yikes!

    The lake was looking almost frozen over this morning. (it wasn’t)

It was really busy again today at Alpine Meadows. As in all of the parking lots were full by 11:15 or so, at both Alpine and Palisades. We had bailed at that point and noted that there was still an insane amount of ski traffic inbound on Highway 89. At least today, most of the lifts were open at Alpine within the first hour and many people arrived later than the opening bell. The first hour and a half of the day was not incredibly busy…after that, the quality of skiing was not worth the amount of time spent in line.

Inbound ski traffic on 89 at 11:30 this morning.

I know, it’s holiday weekend and we should be mentally prepared for that, and I was. I’ve said time and again that Alpine Meadows works even with all of the parking lots full, as long as the full mountain is open. That was not the case today. ABC is down for the count for who knows how long…Roundhouse was down for a second day and then Yellow went onto a maintenance hold. All three of those chairs are critical when it comes to avoiding holiday crowds. (Roundhouse eventually opened at 2:20) Things weren’t all that much better over at Palisades. Here’s the morning tweet regarding lift status:

Anyone that reads that might just choose to go to Alpine Meadows for the day rather than Palisades. Ultimately some of the 7 delayed lifts did open at some point, but by that time people had already settled in for the day. I know, big storm cycle and all, but this is the “third largest resort” that wants to be a “world class resort”. What worries me is there are several more of these big storms headed our way and I am hoping that huge crowds and limited operations do not become our new normal.

How was the skiing today? It depends a lot of who you asked. While a number of people tried to convince me that there was great powder stashes to be found, I did not necessarily find that to be the case. I’ve seen some very trusted local ski celebrities post today to the effect that although we got a lot of new snow, it’s more of a base builder and not great for skiing. I experimented in a few locations today and found that if you could find untracked snow with a supportable base, you could make nice powder turns. When I found those places, I would get four good turns, then have my tips dive into the depths of Sierra cement below the lighter topcoat.

Ultimately, most of the crowd that was out there today needed a nice groomer to ski down, and there just wasn’t enough of that. In particular, from Summit, it was just Alpine Bowl and Wolverine. Consequently those runs were exceptionally busy. So apparently we’re still short on grooming staff. That also put a lot of people on Weasel and Sherwood Run, not having easy access to Dance Floor, Werners or Charity. Not ideal, but hey we can go sightseeing on the shiny boxes!

Now that we’re back to a “holiday for some” week, we’ll have to wait and see what crowds look like for the rest of the week.

The Weather Models: “Guano” Crazy

Don’t be fooled by this little system that will drop some snow over night. Somewhere around 3 to 5 inches of new snow is expected overnight. With these cold temperatures, it should be nice and light compared to the last storm. That should make for some nice conditions for tomorrow, especially in areas where there is a supportable base and not just mush. It’s the following storms that you might worry about.

The first of three possible AR events rolls in on Wednesday that will likely have widespread effects in Northern California. The first one looks to possibly bring 3-5 feet of snow and probably too much wind. Forecasters have applied the term “bomb cyclone” to this one. Hurricane force winds are expected offshore. For all practical purposes it is a hurricane like system. Damaging winds are expected, and with saturated soils from the last system, that means falling trees, falling power lines, etc. That one wraps up by Friday or Saturday.

It’s the one after that that could be more problematic. This mornings model runs of the GFS and the GEFS were showing the potential of 20 inches of rain in the Northern Sierra. Using standard thinking, that could equate to 20 feet of snow above the freezing level. I know the sayings “All snow is good” and “We need the water”, but that amount would be catastrophic. We’re still a week out on that system, so hopefully a more rational forecast will shape up as we get closer. Reading the tweets of various forecasting agencies and weather bloggers today…they are a bit spooked by the possibilities. I’m just going to say that to a certain degree, the models have been pretty good at identifying these systems lately. Daniel Swain at WeatherWest.com is working up a new blog post sometime this evening covering the flood potential from upcoming systems.

244 inches of snow in Tahoe…

Fingers are crossed that does NOT happen…

10 thoughts on “Yikes!”

  1. Have your experienced the “staging area” at the top of KT where people are offloading from the Gondola? Scattered snowboarders on the snow like a field of marmots, and many skiers attempting to put on their skis while not getting toppled over by the downhill ski traffic heading to the west side of KT. It is truly a Brilliant design.

  2. Powder was absolutely heavier than ideal today, but I feel like I was still able to find some decent spots! As an employee, I’ve definitely been eyeing these storm events with some apprehension. And yeah, we could for sure use more snow management and lift operations/maintenance personnel. But honestly it’s the same all over Tahoe: pretty much every business is hiring and needs more people to keep up with all the tourists. Additionally, as I’m sure you’re aware already, some areas (Subway today was a really good example, the patches of water and snowcat tracks could be seen from the lift) can’t be groomed right now due to flooding and moisture saturation from this last rain-heavy storm. But hopefully better tomorrow with the added dusting of dry snow from tonight. 😉

    1. FACT CHECK:

      Yes, I believe we are all in agreement that employees are difficult to come by, appropriate wages/compensation, cost of living and housing are a huge part of the problem.

      This being said , other resorts have taken steps to combat the housing issues by constructing or procuring employee housing. Alterra in all their infinite wisdom has chosen connecting employee housing to their plans for an obscenely large development with little chances of passing as proposed (again) . Cost of housing and its availability is directly related to demand, cheap passes with no cap on numbers have been driving up demand. for years . In other words , Alterra has made the bed they’re sleeping in and they, unfortunately, continue to make excuses and shift blame as to why.

      Yet, with all the above being known for years they continue to expand their customer base without a means to supply an acceptable product and without an acceptable plan to hire those with the necessary experience to deal with what they’ve created .
      In regards to snow management, if anybody believes water running under snow is a “surprise” they may need a little more time under their belt. Groomers that are not being used in areas where known water issues are taking place could be used elsewhere (maybe clearing the abc counter weight area ?) or increasing circulation and flow on paths , for safety if nothing else .
      We all know the “snow business” requires sound strategic planning by experienced (retained ) personal that are compensated and respected accordingly. It seems that alterra has forgotten this or lacks the skill set to get it done.

      For “other” examples, try Mt Rose, Sugar Bowl and or Mammoth.

      Former (25 year) ski area (including sv/am) employee …

      FDT

      1. FDT well said. There needs to be a commitment to employee housing and also employee transportation. My daughter picked up three of our J1s and drove them to TC. They expressed their frustration with lack of transportation.

  3. The off loading at the top of KT from the new Gondola transporter is becoming more hazardous. On 1/3/23 they opened a new exit to the right. Now skier and boarders have the option to exit and walk/ski down the side angle to the narrow cat track that goes down to Saddle. Some kids with their coach were walking up the cat track in the opposing direction of downhill traffic to get up to West Face. Mountain Operations needs to get this under control.

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