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Season Expectations Get A Bit More Official

Squaw Valley Alpine Meadows has released a few more details about what to expect for the upcoming season, now less than a month away. There were no real surprises for me on that list, as I’ve been watching other resort announcements all summer. We published a list of unofficial expectations back on August 12th. It turns out most of our guesses were spot on.

You can see the basics of the press release from SVAM President Ron Cohen at the SkiAlpine.com website. But to really get down to more significant details, you’ll want to check the FAQ tab. Or, you can just check the summary below. Each item is followed with an assessment of whether our initial guess in August was correct.

  • Face coverings are going to be required, obviously indoors, but likely outdoors as well. Single layer face coverings are not acceptable. Correct
  • Lifts will not be fully loaded. You will likely be advised to ride only with members of your household. Expect to see a lot of doubles loading on quad chairs. Some mountains suggest they could load two singles on the opposite ends of a quad or two couples on the opposite ends of a sixer. Correct
  • Merging lift lines may not be a thing this year, as combining groups is something that will be discouraged. We could see the older form of separate lines all moving forward, and the front row being called out, as Alpine Meadows operated until Kate left. Correct
  • Lift corrals will need more space at the bottom of the hill in order to provide more space between people. Correct
  • Group lesson sizes will decrease and require a reservation. Lessons will only be available to those 8 yo and older. Mostly Correct
  • Rentals will likely require a reservation, with much of the paperwork being done online ahead of time. You will likely be asked to pick your equipment sizes and enter things that would affect adjustments ahead of time. This would allow most customers to simply walk up and pick up gear and go to the snow. Correct
  • Walk up day tickets will not be available, limited reserved day tickets may be available Mostly Correct
  • No reservations will be required for pass holders (yet). We’re happy to call ourselves incorrect here.
  • Operations could be limited due to limited staffing. Restrictions on international travel and work visas are going to impact the ski areas and surrounding communities in a big way this year. We may not see 100% lift operations, especially mid-week. Correct
  • Then again, if this summer is any indication, the difference between mid-week and weekends has been blurred quite a bit. Remains to be seen
  • Most areas of the lodge will have to be open to provide restrooms and provide protection from weather on stormy days. Correct
  • Seating will likely be reduced to provide for more spacing. A commonly heard number is that 50% of seating capacity will be removed. Correct
  • Seating will focus on providing a space for eating and a respite from the cold. Guests are asked to limit time indoors to 15 minutes. Vehicles are suggested as an alternative shelter option. Correct
  • There will likely be more emphasis on ready made food and self service options to reduce the amount of queuing up to order and waiting for food. Correct
  • As much as possible, food service will be offered outdoors. More seating will be available. Additional umbrellas and fire pits will be added. Mostly Correct
  • Bar services will possibly be limited to beer, wine and ready made cocktails served on the deck of the Base Lodge and the Chalet. Indoor bars may not open until Placer County is at yellow “Minimal” ranking for COVID Didn’t see this one coming
  • Contactless payment and credit cards are the norm for payment. Correct
  • Seasonal lockers will be open this year Mostly Correct
  • Seasonal locker users are asked to limit their time in the locker room to 15 minutes. Mostly Correct
  • Seasonal locker rooms will have all extra movable furniture removed, including tables and microwaves. Correct
  • The day use lockers are another story. Keeping them sanitized would require a small army…or an industrial fogger. Indeed, electrostatic foggers have been purchased to help in this sort of area. Maybe Correct
  • The Park N Ride shuttles from Truckee used on peak days and holidays will not operate this year. Correct

There’s a few things we didn’t address at all in August.

  • Seasonal teams are on at this time, with no specific mention of limitations. One would assume that teams will split into smaller packs this season.
  • Shuttles between Alpine Meadows and Squaw Valley will operate at 50% capacity. At that, it still seems like a bad idea.
  • The Mountaineer service will return this year, again with reduced capacity. Uhm, yeah, again, no thank you.

There’s a number of things on the FAQ that are specific to Squaw Valley. Dining, yes. Tubing, yes. Mini Snowmobiles, no….but you should check out the details if you’re looking for something more than skiing and riding.

We really hope that, with the help of us customers, Squaw Valley Alpine Meadows can pull it off this year and provide us with an opportunity for lift served skiing and riding. There’s no doubt that they will need everyone to work together to make it happen.

Here’s the big thing, the work to keep our ski season in play needs to be done now. The numbers of COVID cases and associated hospitalizations and death is rising in many areas of the country, including parts of California and Nevada. It was my intention to write a blog post about it here, but someone beat me to it. Alan Henceroth, the Chief Operations Officer of Arapahoe Basin, covered it just right in Al’s Blog:

We can’t let our guard down now. It’s not just the wearing of face coverings, washing hands and social distancing that will save us. It’s avoiding gatherings, especially indoor gatherings, of any sort. This is the year for a skipping that big Thanksgiving dinner, or not having the whole company get together for a holiday party, or not booking that little ski condo with 25 of your best buddies. Just remember, lift served skiing is worth it. So is keeping people alive.

If we lose a few subscribers because we believe in science, we’re okay with that…

11 thoughts on “Season Expectations Get A Bit More Official”

  1. October 26 2020

    hi everyone

    I just emptied out my locker of about 30 years at the Squaw Valley Members Locker Room. Locker Manager Evan was very helpful, and processed the refund right away.

    Why? Evan reports the the Alterra lawyers are still working up a plan for the locker room. It “appears” the plan will be to limit the number of people win the locker room to 200 at a time (assuming Placer County at current Stage ORANGE); all furniture will be removed; no coffee; one-way access through various doors; an air purifier.

    If the Placer County Health CZAR(INA) (remember her prior warning to vacate Placer County because we might run out of fresh vegetables at Lucky and Safeway?) decides to shut down the locker / change the rules, she might just do that at any time;

    200 people? That is way too many. I thought it would be about 5 or 10, like a mid-week afternoon. $1229 for a locker, but no chairs to sit on, etc. If the locker room was shut down, would there be some sort of cash rebate from Squaw (I asked for a refund of some sort for last year’s mid-season shutdown of the locker… Squaw Management was clear with their response: “NO REFUNDS”)

    Evan did say she will “boot” the locker, so that If I want to renew the following year, the same locker will be available; that is a nice gesture, and I hope COVID issues are long gone by then.

    Evan reported the the Squaw Tram current plan is to limit to 25 people per car.

    Let’s hope for the best…. but it might be a very bumpy ride this winter!

    1. I’m not super familiar with the exact square footage of the Members Locker over at SV. I know its quite large, as I have gotten lost in there. I predicted removing those extra niceties as a way to keep people from hanging out in locker rooms. I would still expect to see a schedule at some point…

  2. Mark

    On a nice Saturday at 900 am, the locker room is packed. Impossible to keep 6 foot distance. Maybe be 150 people at a time then. A super spreader every Saturday? No thank you. I am thinking the alters lawyers are grinning up contractual language to indemnify alterra from covid spread?

    On a blustery Tuesday afternoon, the locker room has 2 to 10 people. That might be manageable under COVID 19

    The square footage is like a medium size restaurant. At least restaurants will sanitize the table after each party leaves. Unknown how Squaw will sanitize the locker room.

    Squaw is recommending to eat your lunch in your car. That sort of makes sense.

    Bottom line. At this time, I am not risking a packed locker room. I’d rather carry my skis the extra 100 feet!

    1. I think eating lunch in the car is a great idea, especially for my kids on the Alpine All Mountain team…they have to remove masks to eat! I’m sorry to deprive them of the very much longed for socializing with other kids, I expect pushback and tears but the Cov-19 numbers are going up round the world as fall/winter hit. Keep you and yours safe folks, it’s all we can do. Coming together as a community to protect ourselves and others. Just a suggestion, but before heading out to school, we have been required to take he kids temperatures (we got a quick ear probe for $29…takes 3 seconds) and ask them about headaches, symptoms. If you have new cold/flu symptoms please please stay home! My own brother blew off his “cold symptoms “ turns out he had full blown pneumonia related to the positive Covid diagnosis he had. It can happen to anyone.

  3. From the FAQS page: “Face coverings with two or more layers will also be mandatory in lift lines and while loading, riding and unloading all lifts”. How will this be enforced?

    1. I am guessing that only the most obvious single layer coverings will be noticed…bandannas,fishnet stockings over the head, etc. Hopefully they will provide suitable buffs to pass holders free or at a reasonable cost.

  4. Mark,
    Thanks for the info! As a longtime RN in ICU and later Nurse Practitioner, I can tell you the risk is very real. Please wear your masks and follow the distancing guidelines folks!! Hopefully, together as a community, we can keep the resort open all season long this way!! See you on the slopes. Woo Hoo!

  5. I asked for some clarification and apparently she locker room plan at Alpine will involve one way traffic flow through rooms 1&2
    You can exit directly on to the snow but will have to come back in through the pass office lobby. So forget about avoiding that always-congested area. Apparently they are still deciding whether they might allow people to Hold their locker for the following season. Fingers crossed. 15 mins and social distancing are totally unrealistic on a Sat. morning.

    1. We were talking about this for Locker Room 3, where it just does not make sense to force people to go out the back door onto the snow. That area of the locker room is quite congested, and I would much rather quickly duck out the front door. Maybe they should just install traffic signals…

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